Guana wrote: ANTISOCIAL wrote:
Good points but I have worked for everything I have. That's my beef with her. Nobody paid my way through university. I went straight to work out of high school. My parents had a decent home in a normal neighborhood. Mom was a teacher and Dad was self employed. There was never any spare money.
One of her parents is a lawyer I believe....
I really don't get you lot sometimes, there's nothing wrong with being working class, kudos to you if you work hard and bring up your family out of your own pocket, but I don't really get the elitism, a vast majority of the people I know are working class, a vast majority of those are complete wankers, it isn't some sort of awesome club that guarantees that they're all great blokes worthy of your respect and attention, sometimes it's quite the opposite.
If you work hard, save your money and can afford to hand things on a plate to your kids and give them chances you never had, would you withhold that money and deny them just so they grow up to be better people? would your kids be worse people if you did help them out? Are the working class more savvy, filled in and understanding because they had a bit of a struggle or can some of them grow up to be pricks?
I can understand you not liking someone who's pretending to be something they're not, I feel the same about the punk pretenders out there, but maybe Woo just happens to love a scene that she knows she's going to be automatically discriminated against in because of a detail of birth, of course she's going to pretend to be something she isn't, you lot demand it, when you set your borders so tight and your rules so rigid of course you're going to get phoneys, they're a product of your own creation.
Skinhead elitists are just as bad as the punk elitists who reckon you're not a punk unless you live in a squat, sniffin glue and own a small dog on a piece of string
btw, Hi OTA
Well said. We used to see the snobbery of nobility, today we see the inverted snobbery of the proud "have-nots". I'm gonna toss into the ring Joe Strummer, who gets castigated for going to private school as if it was his choice to do so, and George Orwell, who the 'socialist' literature students I drank with called 'a middle-class wanker with his head up his own arse'.
Apart from the fact they were talking about George fucking Orwell, who did more for socialism than they could ever conceive from their bedsits, I resented 'middle class' being part of the insult. From people who were often so obviously middle class themselves - but they 'identified' as working class, so they were. Fine then. I'll identify as Chinese from now on. Therefore I am Chinese.
I often wish I'd replied with something along the lines of 'what would you know about it, you ill-educated working class oik', but these were one of the few occasions when I decided it wasn't worth the hassle.
OT, I know, but I feel much better now!
BTW, never heard OFC, quite like the bastards.
"I tried to push him away with my head and I shouldn't have done that." - Alan Pardew